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Crossfit: Not For Everyone

Crossfit will probably never go away.  I’m not here to be an advocate of it or bash it. Parents and athletes do need to become more educated on what it actually is or can be. It’s just another way to workout that needs to be implemented when and where appropriate.

Grant Stoddard took time to describe some of Crossfit in Inside the Cult of Crossfit

Buy Alprazolam From China Clink on the link above to read his perception, along with the opinions of many other certified professionals. There is an emphasis on certified professionals.

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8 Responses to Crossfit: Not For Everyone

  1. Brian Hassler July 19, 2012 at 10:39 am #

    I am not sure that is the best article to capture the essence of CrossFit. Plus even though you say you are not here to be an advocate of it or bash it you, your last sentence leads me to think that you are more against it than for it (there is an emphasis on certified professionals). I’d rather see an article written from yourself with legitimate reasoning rather than hash up some article with many inherent flaws.

  2. Stoyanoff July 19, 2012 at 11:35 pm #

    http://tamaralounge.com/wp-json/wp/v2/pages/3251/autosaves?_locale=user Brian,

    Buying Xanax Online Australia I really am not for or against it, so please don’t read too much into the last sentence. I’ve used lots of ideas from Crossfit in my own training and training I’ve implemented. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed many of Rippetoe’s ideas.

    I was putting emphasis that I thought well of the individuals giving their opinion. I’m not sure of what the actual essence of Crossfit is. I’ve seen it used well and just like hundreds of other modes of working out, I’ve seen it used poorly. What are the inherent flaws of the article or the illegitimate reasonings though? (Ha, it’s probably hard to find an article on Yahoo Health that doesn’t have some sort of flaw in it)

    I’m glad you commented on the article and I hope it actually leads to some good convo. Thanks

  3. Brian Hassler July 27, 2012 at 6:21 pm #

    I would say my argument is with the author more than anyone he references in the article. I checked his website and his main accomplishment is being a “sexpert”. Not someone I would take fitness advice from.

    That being said, I have done crossfit and know quite a few of the affiliate owners in my area (I can say that I am directly responsible for one owner and indirectly for another). With that in mind, I do think one problem with Crossfit is the coach/trainer and the standards that each affiliate maintains. The student that I worked with that opened his facility preaches mechanics, consistency, and then and only then intensity (obviously relative to the movement).

    Buy Alprazolam Cheap Another problem that I see is the disconnect that some Crossfit trainers have regarding the strength and conditioning field. They buy into the Crossfit lifestyle hook line and sinker but forget that Crossfit is 1) a GPP program and 2) that Crossfit itself has borrowed extensively from many disciplines. The average trainer relies solely on Crossfit for info versus seeking it out. (i’d start with recommending Supertraining by Siff for any trainer). Another concern I have is volume control but that again comes back to the trainer.

    http://audiodescription.co.uk/directory/describers/promenade-performance/certificate-in-audio-description-skills-stage/certificate-in-audio-description-skills-stage?reset=reset Crossfit does offer an unbelieveable opportunity though for creating community in the health and fitness arena.

  4. Stoyanoff July 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm #

    Where To Order Xanax Online Brian, good points about Crossfit. However, it seems like you may be in the minority. Im human, so naturally I’m seeing the silliness of it all, but I’m sure there are great coaches out there.

    Xanax Prescription Online Well, maybe the author has awesome sex advice? haha. Even if he’s a slap, he makes legitimate points and so do the professionals in the article. I read the article as, “Crossfit can be good, but shitty coaches often screw it up, and it’s creating a silly cult following”.

    Buy Discount Xanax They have lost an assload of money in lawsuits from injury. Eh, that could happen anywhere though.

    http://dynamotaxi.com/wp-content/vuln.php I’m curious about Crossfit then. If it’s a GPP program, why are some of the exercises so technically advanced? I’ve always had an issue with the exercise choice and order for many of the workouts I’ve seen or read. How did intensity and volume get so out of hand with the olympic lifts? I never believed or learned that the Olympic lifts and derivatives were exercises to be used for volume and timed competitions. It’s silly to me.

    I can’t agree with you more about the disconnect some trainers may have regarding the rest of the field. “disconnect”, that may be a nice way of saying they are bad trainers/coaches. If Crossfit is all you know, it’s going to certainly handicap good decision making as a coach. Blindly buying into something without critically thinking about it, is foolish.

    http://tamaralounge.com/wp-cron.php?doing_wp_cron=1580995706.0888938903808593750000 Supertraining is good. I’d personally recommend getting an educational foundation in the exercise science field. Then, becoming certified by one of the accredited associations is another great step. I don’t know the exact details of becoming Crossfit certified. Does Crossfit require trainers to have some sort of basic knowledge of physiology, anatomy, biomechanics, etc.? I know you do, but again, you and I are not the standard.

    http://bisnisbajumu.com/tag/kaos-muslim-anak-murah/feed Thanks for the response and let me know what you think about the exercise choice, order, volume, and intensity as it pertains to Crossfit workouts.

    http://artists-atelier.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/M-ariel-VIGNETTE180-1-120x120@2x.jpg I put up a few videos that show what my perspective is based on. Now, I have friends that do Crossfit. How they are doing it is probably more like what you would define it as, but are these videos the majority?

  5. Brian Hassler July 30, 2012 at 10:21 am #

    Xanax Online Nz I am not going to knock a degree in exercise science but I don’t think that is the be all end all for being a good strength coach or health and fitness practicioner. I would add personality, ability to communicate, experience, desire to learn beyond the degree, the ability to get results and as for different certifications I think they all have an agenda and can be somewhat behind the times when it comes to training. Yes some do add a quality of professionalism to the field but they also take away from it. For instance, Lifetime Fitness is partnered with NASM which gets kickbacks/rewards…and I have seen the quality of some of those trainers (some who do have degrees in exercise science)

    http://richlistgroup.com/?id=Can-You-Buy-Xanax-In-Stores I work in a high school and I can honestly say I’d rather have a good crossfit trainer teaching the lifts than the average high school football coach (which obviously still doesn’t prove much). So as for exercise choice it comes back to the competency of the trainer. That being said in Jim Kielbaso’s e-book the 70 greatest exercises he recommends a finisher of 21-15-9 involving olympic lifts and I consider him a respected authority in the field of S&C.

    “Olympic lifts like the clean or snatch work well here because they take so much energy.
    Imagine doing 21 reps of clean and jerk with a weight you can only do 10-12 reps with, then
    move on to 21 chin-ups and 21 deadlifts. It can get intense pretty fast if you use the right weight
    and pick good exercises.” How is this different than crossfit? Even in lon kilgore’s book “Fit” he recommends workouts with rep schemes of 20-15-10 of thrusters and kb swings (i believe).

    To me the inherent problem with crossfit is the volume. I am not sure if I can solely blame this on crossfit.com or individual affliates, or individual participants. Obviously with the increased popularity of the crossfit games, the perception of crossfit has been changed to these all out balls to the walls workouts and I have seen a lot of crossfitters that fall into the “metcon meth-head” syndrome similar to the runner’s high they don’t feel that they have acheived anything unless they are laying on the floor in a puddle of sweat. I guess this is also related to intensity too. To them this feels intense but in essence because of its longer nature the intensity has actually been diminished.

    http://junction25.com/wp-content/plugins/vwcleanerplugin/bump.php?cache I personally would favor an approach closer to crossfitfootball.com. Have you seen this website? a strenght bias with “finishers” or “metcons” in the 5-10 minute range and a good dose of sprinting.

    Valium Buy As for books or authors who would you recommend? I like Dan John “Never Let go”, Zatsiorsky “science and practice of strength training”, Verkhoshansky, Kurz “Science of Sports Training, Rippetoe and Kilgore. I believe at one point Rippetoe, Kilgore, and Dan john had ties to crossfit.

    From what I know the crossfit certification process is a two-day seminar with a test. They teach 9 basic movements, air squat, deadlift, sumo deadlift high pull, press, push press, push jerk, thruster, med ball clean, and one other I can’t think of off the top of my head. It cost a 1000$ ( too expensive in my opinion but then again with the popularity of crossfit you could look at it as a marketing tool also). They also offer speciality certs in various sub-topics like powerlfiting, weightlifting with Mike Burgener, mobility with Kelly Starrett (who in my opinion is the best thing to come out of crossfit.com) and others.

  6. Stoyanoff July 31, 2012 at 3:54 pm #

    Great points about possible qualities of good coaches. Yup, having a degree isn’t all there is or has to be. It’s what I suggest to those who ask, as a starting point.

    Buy 100 Diazepam Of course all of those certification have agendas. Haha they have to make money somehow. I used to be somewhat anti-certification. It stemmed from all of the shitty coaches I witnessed or worked with in the past. In time, I got over it and concluded that there’s good certifications that have reliable testing measures. Some are obviously better than others. Given the testing is reliable, the certification should mean that the individual has a basic understanding of anatomy, biomechanics, physiology, and strength and conditioning principles, etc. I’m not proposing a solution, but I don’t believe Crossfit holds their coaches or certification to a very high standard. Just like a lot of other certifications.

    Buy Diazepam Legally I agree, I’d rather have a good coach coaching in high school than a bad coach. I don’t care what they are labeled.

    http://junction25.com/xmlrpc.php Using 21-15-9 the way Jim suggested isn’t any different than Crossfit, you’re right. I’m pretty sure Jim took it from Crossfit anyway when he was writing the book. Even though he suggests using that protocol with exercises like the Olympic lifts can be very hard, he wouldn’t implement it that way. I asked him during lunch. I was ready to start a friendly argument with him and he didn’t take the bait.

    Buying Valium Online In Australia I don’t know who’s to blame either for the things I feel are wrong with Crossfit. I think it’s safe saying it’s a combination of bad coaching and bad administration/leadership. It should come down to the competency of the trainer, but Crossfit suggests so many of the silly workouts/exercises.

    http://junction25.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-db-ajax-made/wp-ajax.php I checked out the Crossfit football website. Looks like a useful tool. I like the strength and metabolically demanding emphasis, you’re talking about. It reminds me of old Boyd Epley workouts.

    Buy Indian Valium Online Is the WOD the only thing for the day? I might be missing some information on the site.

    Buy Rectal Diazepam If the website is based on just the Crossfit Football Strength WOD, it’s an incredibly incomplete training philosophy. I’m going to look more on the site though at all the tabs. I’m probably missing something.

    Eh, I actually enjoyed the literature I had to read in undergrad and when I went on with my education. Reading on top of that usually consisted of old Arthur Jones stuff, Ellington Darden, Brooks Kubik, Rippetoe’s stuff, Ken Leistner and really whatever else I could get my hands on. The more basic it is, the more it makes sense to me. Yes, Rippetoe does have ties to Crossfit.

    Buying Valium Online Illegal Let me know more about the Crossfit football stuff when you get a chance. Thanks.

  7. Brian Hassler August 2, 2012 at 11:09 am #

    actually on the right side of the page on crossfit football they have the SWOD (strength workout of the day). This is actually the emphasis and they recommend if you are feeling beat down to skip the conditioning portion or DWOD (dynamic workout of the day). they break it down further to amateur, collegiate, and professional. I know amateur is based off a simple linear progression, 5×5. I am pretty sure the mantra at crossfit football is lift heavy, run fast, and eat smart.

    I also enjoy Brooks Kubik, “dinosaur training”. John Welbourne (creator of crossfit football and former NFL player) also has a website called “talk to me johnnie”. I believe I read that he was influenced by George Zangas (founder of marathon nutrition and creator of one version of the squat suit).

    Like I said with crossfit, the community is what drives that ship. the one thing that has made me less enamored with crossfit is the “hero” workouts that they prescribe. I have nothing against the concept of honoring fallen soldiers, police officers etc… but i think they have diluted them by creating a new one every week and also I think those are really culprits of high volume torture tests. Just my opinion though.

  8. Stoyanoff August 2, 2012 at 11:28 am #

    Yup, that’s pretty much what I took from the football website.

    You and I probably think more alike about Crossfit than not. It’s just fine for you, me, my friends etc.

    My conclusion about what Crossfit is…… “Crossfit is what the trainers and athletes make it.” That’s the essence of it. It’s whatever that coach/trainer makes it.

    “High Volume Torture Test”, hahah that’s hilarious. I’m going to use that to describe some things for now on. I’ll give ya credit for the name.

    Good luck with everything and I hope to see more of your thoughts on other topics. Great stuff.

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